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Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned (Xbox 360)

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Full-frontal male nudity shocks in hefty expansion with matu


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What parents need to know

Parents need to know that this game GTA IV downloadable expansion is most definitely not for children, tweens, or teens (under the age of 17). It is even more controversial than its predecessors because this game has full frontal male nudity. The game lets you lead a life of crime as part of a motorcycle gang with plenty of gang violence (including pushing someone's face against a spinning mototcycle wheel in a bike repair shop), relentless foul language, drugs and alcohol, and sexual references. The star rating given to this game is based on quality of gameplay within this adult genre of video gaming and is not an endorsement of the violence within the game.

Educational value: Not applicable.
Positive messages: The game doesn't offer many positive stereotypes of motorcycle gangs (who are violent law-breakers), women (many of whom are strippers or prostitudes), immigrants (such as the criminal Nico from Eastern Europe), Jewish people (The Lost's VP, who can be vicious at times, is referred to as "The Jew") and politicians (mostly dirty ones).
Violence: Players can use all kinds of weapons (automatic 9mm, sawed-off shotguns, pipe bombs and grenade launchers) to kill people in this game, including innocent civilians and police officers. You are a member of a violent biker gang and killing others is very much a part of the game-play. Players will see blood but not gore. But will see extreme situations like pushing someone's face into a spinning motorcycle wheel as punishment.
Sex: While there is no hidden sex game as was found in GTA San Andreas, this game does show full-frontal nudity with a male congressman getting a massage.
Language: The game is laden with swear words including "f--k," "motherf--ker," "sh-t," "damn," "hell" and many others.
Consumerism: The game doesn't show any real brands but the music is licensed.
Drinking, drugs, & smoking: Gamers will see cigarette smoking, drinking (including doing shots with friends...before riding bikes, no less), and some drug references (including the "President" of your biker gang who comes out of rehab at the start of the game).

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What to talk about

Talk to your kids

Families can talk about why Rockstar likes to push the envelope and garner controversy over its games? Why did they have to put full-frontal nudity in the game if it's not integral to the story? Do they correlate media outrage with extraordinary game sales? Do players expect Rockstar to stir up controversy with each of its titles, including the Manhunt and Bully series? Families can also talk about the impact of video game violence on players and why so many parents question whether GTA games are appropriate for kids. On an unrelated note, should Rockstar make this game available to PlayStation 3 owners instead of delivering an Xbox 360 exclusive?

What's the story?

What's the story?

Forget everything you know about downloadable content ("DLC") for your video games, such as extra songs, a bonus level, or a new multiplayer map. Rockstar Games' GRAND THEFT AUTO IV: THE LOST AND DAMNED (1600 Microsoft Points, or $19.99), the first of two planned episodes for Xbox 360 owners of Grand Theft Auto IV, redefines what's possible in DLC with the beefiest game expansion to date. But as with the main game, The Lost and Damned is laden with mature content and should be kept away -- far away -- from children.


Before we get to The Lost and Damned, a quick primer on the "GTA" games for the uninitiated: Gamers play as a member of the criminal underworld and can go virtually anywhere and do anything in a fully realized 3-D city with pedestrians, traffic, and storefronts. Played from a third-person perspective, this includes carjacking any vehicle, accepting run-and-gun missions (or racing-based objectives), interacting with seedy characters, and making money to fuel future endeavors. Last year's Grand Theft Auto IV, told the story of Niko Bellic, an Eastern European immigrant trying to make it on the streets in a fictitious metropolis known as Liberty City. Grand Theft Auto IV: The Lost and Damned is a 1.78GB download -- via the Xbox Live online service -- that adds a ton of new content to the original game (GTA IV disc required) including a new storyline, characters, missions, vehicles, weapons, music, multiplayer modes, and other content (such as watchable TV shows inside the game). At the start of this expansion game we're introduced to our new protagonist, Johnny Klebitz, the "vice president" of a tough biker gang who not only must contend with foes in Liberty City (namely, other gangs and the cops) but also must cope with power struggles inside the gang, too -- as we learn from the opening cinematic sequence. The standalone story fits nicely alongside the original plot, and you'll intersect with Nico (both directly and indirectly) throughout this 10-hour adventure.

Is it any good?

Is it any good?
 

Rather than tackle missions by yourself, this expansion is all about "gang banging" with your crew, such as riding (or racing) the streets in a pack and partaking in many gang wars together. The hogs handle nicely, so there shouldn't be a learning curve when it comes to the controls. As with past "GTA" games, The Lost and Damned can get quite violent, even from the first scene when someone's face is pressed against a spinning motorcycle wheel at a bike shop.

Along with the new single-player missions, the downloadable game offers many new multiplayer modes including the ability to smack opponents off their bikes while in a race to the finish line and a co-op mode where you can either protect a bus filled with informants or ride a hog as part of The Lost gang determined to destroy it and the snitches inside. Needless-to-say, the content is designed for a mature gamer and for someone who enjoys the virtual, visceral thrill offered by past "GTA" bad boy games. With this in mind, it truly is a fun ride worth considering.

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Game Details
Available on: Xbox 360
Available online
Genre: Action/Adventure
Developer: Rockstar Games
Released on: February 17, 2009
Price: 19.99
ESRB Rating: M for Blood, Intense Violence, Nudity, Strong Language, Strong Sexual Content, Use of Drugs and Alcohol

This review was written by Marc Saltzman
 
 

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givethemachance
parent of 12 year old
 
this game not as bad as any other gta
my son played this and before i said no but then i read that the male full frontal nudity was in it and i was like my son is not going to be seeing that. but then my sons friends dad told me the player has the ability to skip missing skits with are seen before every mission. so that ability makes this game no were as close as bad. and all the strip clubs are owned by other biker gangs and u don't go in them if u do u get killed right away and the strippers run away when u get attacked so you don't see them. but you are in a biker gang so there will be violence. so don't always follow the back off the game case

rogersr12
teen, 18 years old
 
grand theft auto

 
Ratings are there for a reason. Do you let your kids watch X rated movies?
Do you let your kids watch X rated movies? Of course not. And you know they are "those kind" of movies because of their rating. This game is rated M. It's there for a reason. It's for adults. Video games are not just made for kids. Those of you saying that it shouldn't have been made should be aware that in this country, making things appropriate only for adults is legal. What's good for you and your family is fine... but don't push your beliefs on to me. I don't you (an adult) what's okay for you to watch do I? Why do you insist on doing that to me?

benbrm
kid, 12 years old
 
IT TEACHES YOU HOW NO TO DRIVE A MOTERCYCLE
It teaches you HOW NOT TO DRIVE. But It shows a mans penis and testicles in on mission. Also you can't go one mission with out hearing the word f--k and its variations of the word. Hope this helps!

J C
parent of 12 year old
 
gta loved
love it for ages 11 and up!

STEVECARMICHEL
parent of 12 and 13 year old
 
FOR TWEENS
Hey I dont know if you have played the game or not but the reviews you guys have are wrong!!!! There is no sexual content except ladies in bikinis. And Ive beat the whole game and there is only about 2 missions with drugs. I do agree with language. AND AGAIN: Its the players choice if they want to kill some one or do a mission I always TEST these types of games before my 11 and 12 year old playes it. I am a dad and i rate this from inapropriate content 3 OUT 10 This is for ages 11 and up!!!!!!

zen_cat
parent of 11 year old
 
Encouraging gang violence in a FUN way >_>
My daughter went to school with a little boy (age six) who played this game at home with his 16y.o. brother and his 'posse.' I was a classroom mom and had to help rein in this holy terror several times every day. Granted, the video game was not the only issue here, but this boy loved to tell stories about how he and his brother had "popped a cap" in cops, shopkeepers, etc. in the game. If you care about your children and the future of our society send these game designers to the poorhouse by not buying this game. I'm not a fan of censorship, but this game is a crime against intelligence and responsibility. Unfortunately 17 is as high as the menu goes. I'd like to say it's appropriate for no one but sociopaths.

 
fine if your children are into this kind of thing...
I for one think it is absolutely fine and that some people need to grow up themselves and learn that kids wont turn out bad just because some immigrant drives around and shoots people. I mean, in my oppinion we dont give our children enough credit. besides, guys have penises so they know what they look like anyway, and girls usually find out by 16. am i saying that kids should be able to do WHATEVER they want? absolutely not. what i am saying is that its a videogame, and therefore not real.

vbzvcb
parent of 14 year old
 
15+
violence, nudity, strong language, sexual content, alcohol usage

korn111
adult
 
o.k
very fun game but not age aproprate for young teens under 13 maybe if they are matuare

 
Kid's who rate this game - read this
Okay, so you're tired of being told you're not an adult, but the reality is - you're *not*. M games are for near adults and if you are 15, the rating is for parents to keep you from playing games which *are* too mature for you. Heck they have stuff people of any age are wasting their minds on. The old adage, garbage in equals garbage out. You represent the generation that is going to take care of me when I am old. I don't need you to be a pro-video-game-gang-banger. I need you to have the total opposite of that so that we don't explode socially as a planet. Toss the M games and get back to life.

 
It wasnt that bad
Its bad for kids under the age of 13 or 14 because of the nudity and language in this game. The game is a really good game but not for small kids.

good job
teen, 15 years old
 
its good
you can do what ever u want

 
its just a game
this is not as good game as gta 4 but is still good and dont belive this stuck up parents who let there kids watch worse things like this in the minds of every other person its just another r-rated movies so treat it like one.

kphilbin
parent of and 6 , 8 , 10 year old
 
Please read ratings. And use them
Don't let your kids watch NC-17 movies. Don't let them play M games. It's that easy. If their friends parents let them watch NC-17 movies, have a discussion with those parents. Same w M games. It's not rocket science, people.

 
Great Game, But, NOT FOR KIDS!!!!!!!
This expansion for GTA IV is wonderful, but tell the kids no. Everything that you have heard about the full frontal male nudity is true. Violence aside, the drug references are extreme. I'm a parent of three and a fan of the GTA series, and I would reccomend that any parents that are fans follow the guidelines I have set up with my kids. They don't play GTA, and they aren't allowed in the room with me when I play, period!! They have their own game system setup in another room. There shouldn't be a controversy, this game is designed for adults and it is packaged as such. In closing if you are a parent and you read this, know one thing. Skip this title when you are looking for something for the kids.

ASSASSINator
teen, 17 years old
 
This is a good game and I'd mostly recommend it to ages 15 and up. Yes it has alot of swearing in it, but you won't have to worry about seeing your character in a sexual act with any woman unless you, YOURSELF, stops by a hooker and have your character "serviced". About the Full frontal male nudity part, It's in only one cutscene throughout the whole game. You can avoid that though by pressing the A( for xbox360) or X(for ps3) button. Him standing there naked with his privates out lasts less than 6 seconds which is at the end of the cutscene. The full frontal nudity CAN BE AVOIDED. IT'S JUST IN THIS ONE MISSIONS CUTSCENE AND I GUARANTEE YOU'LL NEVER SEE ANY MORE FULL NUDITY AGAIN AFTER THAT MISSION UNLESS YOU PLAY THROUGH THE STORY AGAIN AND HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT MISSION AGAIN. But you can ALWAYS avoid seeing it though by skipping through the cutscene. Here's a hint when that cutscene comes up. When you see a man (Thomas Stubbs) laying on a table getting a massage, then that's the cutscene with the nudity.

hey12345678
parent of 16 year old
 
This game is for anyone
i think anyone can play this game cuz u can skip cutscenes and all u need to know is how to play

Jill Murphy
parent of 2 year old
 
Not in my house
My son isn't going anywhere near this game. He is threatening to play it at a friends house, but I refuse to let him download this kind of game in our home. Absolutely not for kids!

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